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Career Stories: Understanding a PhD

Dr. Sunil Saroj, Associate Professor a Symbiosis International University shares his perception on the right attitude towards pursuing a PhD. 

What is a PhD, according to you?

If you go literally, then it is a doctor of philosophy. A lot of emphasis has to be made on the philosophy part. PhD is about gaining an overview of a particular subject. Most of the PhD topics are unidirectional and extremely focused, but the overall goal is to develop a philosophical understanding over it.

PhD also talks about the synthesis of knowledge, but before synthesising the knowledge we should also have a broad overview- how is it going to impact society? What are the deliverables? If not the immediate deliverable to the society, but in the long term how is it going to help us understand a particular process and benefit mankind?

Science is driven by observation. When we observe something, we try to question it. The question is generally ‘how’. How is this thing happening? And once we understand how it is happening, the next question is ‘why’. Why is this particular thing happening? And if we want to understand why— we need deeper knowledge. Answering ‘how’ is simple. For instance, in biological sciences, we talk about the mechanism of a particular thing. But WHY is the larger perspective. If we want to answer why, then we need an understanding of diverse fields.

If I am talking about a small part of bacteria, I need to understand the entire functioning of the cell. If I want to understand host-pathogen interaction then I should understand the host as well as the pathogen. Here we are talking only about biological forces, but there are also physical forces that play a role. For that, I require a detailed understanding of physics, chemistry, and all of those processes which are governed by the principle of mathematics; without considering all these aspects it is hard to come to a specific conclusion.

Thus, pursuing a PhD should ideally help me understand any particular question from all these diverse perspectives.

Earlier a PhD would be completed in seven years, which reduced to five years and now it has reduced to three. It is understandable that people want to progress quickly in their careers. Hence, the research topics or the research questions are highly focused nowadays. But it does not mean, we should be leaving the ‘why’ part. We need to understand, why a particular thing is happening, or else there is not much difference in a PhD and a MSc dissertation project. MSc students do a research project for a short period and we do not expect them to answer something called ‘why’. But when it comes to PhD, if we are not able to answer the ‘why’ then PhD is just an extended MSc dissertation project.

To conclude, while pursuing a PhD, a person must be able to answer ‘why’ in addition to the ‘how’ and that is one way to develop the philosophy around science.

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Career Stories: Understanding scientific temper

On the occasion of National Science Day, Indian scientists and academicians express their views regarding ‘scientific temper’, by answering the pertinent question:

“What does scientific temper mean to you?”

“In the first place, scientific temper is not an academic matter, it is in some ways a basic feature of being human. You do not cross the road without looking- because you know what might happen. So the question to ask is not- why we don’t have scientific temper. The question to ask is- why do we abandon scientific temper, in the instances that we do.”Dr. Satyajit Rath (visiting faculty at IISER, Pune)

“When you start rationalising things and build up your opinion on it in an impartial or unbiased way, and when that opinion gets tested- you build up further on it. For me, that is the development of a scientific temper.”Dr. Radha Chauhan (Scientist E at NCCS, Pune)

“Scientific temper need not be restricted to a person from science background- it can even be present in someone from arts, commerce or economics background. If they are observant enough, they are all doing science. Only when we observe, the curiosity can be generated and if it is not generated then the scientific temper is lost. So according to me anybody who is observant has a great scientific temper.”Dr. Sunil Saroj (Faculty member at Symbiosis international deemed university, Pune)

“People think that only some people are cut out to be scientists, that is not true. I think everybody can, it’s just that they need the support and encouragement from people around them to keep asking questions, and grow as a scientist. So, the main thing is- don’t stop questioning, be curious, don’t be afraid to ask and don’t be afraid to be wrong.” Dr. Deepa Subramanyam (Scientist E at NCCS, Pune)

“I think scientific temper is being open to new discoveries, new findings, new data. Whenever you get new data you should be prepared to accept it in spite of the fact that they don’t agree with your long-held beliefs or your favourite books or any other dictates that you have.”Dr. Surendra Ghaskadbi (Emeritus scientist at ARI, Pune)

Watch the complete video on the youtube channel- The Curious Biotechnologist.

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Career Stories: Chapter 3

In this chapter of Career Stories, we bring you the journey of Amruth Bhat, who is an Engineering graduate. In a candid chat, Amruth walks us through his unusual internship journey in the post-pandemic world.

Why do you think an internship is important?

I would say it depends on what an individual wants. If you want to be a researcher, doing an internship gives you a preview of what research is and what it looks like to work in a lab. It will give you clarity on if research is for you or not. If your dream is to apply abroad, doing an internship will leverage your profile. 

An internship is important because it gives you exposure to the field you want to make your career in.

You are pursuing two internships – one at IIT Bombay and another at T-3 molecular genetics/ How different or similar are they? Is it an on-site or remote internship?

I initially applied for IIT Bombay. Due to Covid-19 restrictions, it was set as a remote internship. I was on the lookout for a wet-lab-based experience and T-3 molecular genetics presented that opportunity. Technically they are similar as they are on the subject of proteomics. At IIT Bombay, it is more at the basic research end whereas, at T-3, I am involved in product-based (applied) research.

How did you come across these internships and how rigorous was the selection process?

I came across the IIT Bombay internship on social media. The internship was under Dr. Sanjeeva Srivastava, Proteomics Lab. There were almost 700 applicants for the internship. The screening process involved a 3-week training on basic concepts and daily quizzes. Top 100 scorers were screened for the second round. Next, we had to work on some mini data and it was followed by an interview. The selection process was extensive running up to 1.5 months but it was a great learning experience in itself.  For  T-3, I had sent in my resume to the Bangalore Bioinnovation Center [BBC]-a start-up incubation centre. I got an opportunity to intern at 3-4 start-ups at BBC but the work at T-3 excited me more, and thus I chose T-3 Molecular Genetics for my second internship.   

What qualities do you think helped you get these internships?

I would say, the mini-project I did in college on bioinformatics was a crucial tipping point for my selection. This gave me the base knowledge and some experience in the subject area. I had been trying to get an internship for two years. Since I did not have any research experience, I couldn’t score an internship opportunity. It is a paradox in itself- one needs the experience to gain experience!

Any suggestions for fellow students, who are looking for internships?

Do not be discouraged by a lack of experience. I would suggest you to work on small hobby projects with any of your faculty if you are at your college or on your own. Try building on your technical knowledge and finessing your skills. There are lots of free resources out there. Do a little research, work on your skills, and show that you can apply those skills in the internship you want to pursue. Also, don’t hesitate to work at startups, they can offer exciting experiences! 

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Career Stories: Chapter 2

In this chapter of Career Stories, we bring you the journey of Dr. Czuee Morey who is a digital consultant in the pharmaceutical industry in Europe and is also a guest lecturer for a post graduate program in Switzerland. In a candid chat, Czuee spoke about some key turning points in her career trajectory in the life sciences industry, which helped her identify a path that aligns perfectly with her personal goals and vision.

When did you realise that your current position was the perfect career option for you?

My first position in the industry was an internship as a Market analyst, Digital health at a mid-sized pharmaceutical company. I analysed the application of digital technologies across the pharmaceutical and healthcare value chain that helped shape the strategic objectives of the company. Through this engagement, I realized that digital health has a huge untapped scope within healthcare, and the field was just beginning to grow.

I wanted to gain more experience working hands-on on projects in the digital area within pharmaceutics and healthcare. So, I moved to the operational side to work as a consultant. This gave me the opportunity to work on diverse projects at various pharmaceutical companies in digitalization, FAIR data and building digital products. However, I do not feel I have reached “the perfect career” option and I am still exploring!

How did you transition from Academia to your current position?

I did not have a straight path to my current position. During my PhD, I missed seeing the real-world impact of my work. Driven by this need, I worked on a startup project in the last year of my PhD, took a 4-month entrepreneurship course. This was an eye-opening experience as I learned a lot about taking a product to market and switched my attitude from a technology-focused to a user-focused perspective. It is more important to solve the users’ problems rather than focus only on excellent technology that I had learned so far.

However, I had no idea what “job” I really wanted to do. I kept an open mind, so I tried out a lot of short projects through voluntary postdoctoral positions, and kept my long-term goals and user-focused perspective as the north star. I entered digital consulting and product management by accident, but then realized that it was a good fit for my skills and interests.

Can you briefly describe the technical and soft skills required for your position?

The technical skills required are a good understanding of big data and IT processes as well as how it can be leveraged in drug discovery and healthcare. The most important soft skill required for my role is communication including cross-domain communication, understanding user and client needs and written technical communication. A lot of other soft skills are also required for prioritization, planning, teamwork and negotiation.

What advice would you give students aspiring a career in the industry?

Start with long-term but specific goals of what you would like to achieve in 10 years and then plan backwards on how you can leverage your current skills and understand what you need to learn. Plans rarely work out exactly but it is important to have a goal aligned with your interests and values.

Operate like you are a ‘business of one’. It will help you to think clearly about what the industry needs, who your competition is and how you can differentiate yourself. This will also help during networking and negotiating for the right salary package.

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Career Stories: Chapter 1

In the very first chapter of Career Stories, we bring you the journey of Urjita Joshi, a postdoctoral scientist in the vaccine development team, at a European pharmaceutical company. Urjita reminisces about some of the pivotal moments during her PhD journey, which helped her become the person she is today.

When did you realise that you wanted to pursue a PhD?

After my post-graduation, I took a break for almost 6 months, after which I started an internship at ACTREC in a lab working on Cancer Biochemistry. This was a phase when I was exploring options for research and deciding whether I wanted to do a PhD at all and had no clue what I was going to do ahead with this internship. I had absolutely no expectations from this internship, especially after my break and a hectic postgraduate course. I had applied all over the world for all kinds of positions. When I started this internship, I just wanted to get out of my house, from the monotonous phase of job hunting on numerous websites and get back behind a bench to start thinking like a scientist (and not a salesperson, selling my profile to grab a job!). I wanted to check if I still enjoyed it. And, I was pleasantly surprised, by how much I learned (theoretically and technically) and how fast my brain got adapted to looking at research with a new perspective and enthusiasm. It was this small internship that gave me the complete realisation that- yes I love research and I want to pursue a PhD!

Could you share some of the happiest moments during your PhD?

Definitely, it has to be, when I got a spectacular image of an immune cell eating an extracellular particle inside in a live mouse liver tissue! This was a part of a small side project that I had started on my own. Right from conceptualisation, literature survey (to prove that this was not as bizarre as it sounds), narrowing down upon the best and the most cost-effective techniques, to finding the right collaborator and equipment… until I finally got that one image- was all my brain- child. It was extremely challenging physically and mentally to trouble shoot and co-ordinate a million things all by myself, but it was extremely empowering to see the image that had been captured. I had to overcome not only usual scientific challenges, which is a part-and-parcel of PhD, but in this case, I had to continuously keep motivating myself with extra vigour, because nobody really believed in my vision until they saw it on screen that one fine day.

Could you share some of the lessons learnt during your PhD?

I learnt that that there can be nothing as depressing and yet, as rewarding as the journey of a PhD student. I have seen the worst of me and the best of me in the 4 years of my journey! But the one thing that was constant was- making peace with whatever comes your way. I learnt to accept failure and disappointment as well as soaring success and recognition. I realised that I could not afford to be caught in losses or gains, because then I would never be able to move ahead in my journey. So, the subject, field or technical knowledge should not be how one judges a good PhD. One should of course choose a subject or field of their interest, but what one does ahead with that choice, is much more important. It is easier said than done, I know- I also learnt it the hard way! But realising it already, is a huge step.

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Webinar revisit: What does a PhD look like?

In this article we revisit our webinar held in May 2020, which offered prospective PhD students a comparison of PhD journeys across USA, Europe and India.

When Hamlet exclaims “To be or not to be?” aspiring PhD students cannot help but resonate with the essence – “To do or not to do (a PhD), that is the question!”. The decision of starting a doctoral journey is probably one of the biggest decisions of any student’s life and like all important decisions, has to be well-informed. Unfortunately, there is a dearth of resources that gives students a glimpse of the different phases of a PhD student’s journey – the good and bad alike. In order to help students ease the process of decision-making, we invited postdoctoral researchers and industry experts who had completed their doctoral journeys in different parts of the globe, had seen quite a few tough days during their respective PhD journeys and had successfully made it to the other end-

Aditya Kulkarni PhD, Biochemistry from the Baylor College of Medicine, USA

Amar Parvate PhD, Biological Sciences) from Purdue University, USA

Devika Ranade PhD, Cell Biology) from IISER Pune, India

Gaurav Diwan PhD, Bioinformatics, NCBS, Bangalore, India

Alka Bhat PhD, Biophysics from IGBMC, France

Shraddha Shitut PhD, Microbiology, Max Planck Institute, Jena, Germany

In an informal chat session with our founder Madhura Panse, they spoke in depth about their experiences, lessons learnt and important takeaways and gave students a virtual tour of what a PhD looks like in USA, Germany, France and India. They discussed the nuances of a typical PhD journey with the help of five key components–

  1. Nature of the PhD program
  2. Lab Environment
  3. Skill Development
  4. Networking opportunities
  5. Work-Life balance

Nature of the PhD program-

In USA- students enrol for a structured PhD program. However, in the US, prospective PhD students are required to dedicate a certain number of hours in academic coursework as well as teaching or mentoring undergraduate students. Apart from that, they also undergo lab rotations, and eventually choose the lab of their interest and aptitude. Students then present and defend their topic of interest as a formal proposal to the committee and commence their thesis work thereafter. In India-students enrol for a structured program, however, unlike in the USA, students are not obliged towards any academic coursework and/or teaching duties. But, they may still have to go through lab rotations. In Europe, the scenario may be completely different, as students enrol for a funded project with no teaching duties and no requirement of additional lab rotations and/or coursework (in most cases, at least). Therefore, students may already know the lab and the lab advisor before starting their PhD. Thus, they start working in the lab and on their project from day 1.

These differences in the structure of the PhD program also lead to differences in the duration of the PhD- in US and India, the average time for completing a PhD is anywhere between 4-6 years, while in Europe, the average time is 3-4 years.

Lab Environment –

The relationship between a mentor and mentee, the organisation of the lab, and an individual’s equation with their lab-mates/colleagues are all an important part of the PhD journey. These components not only introduce an individual to the PhD but also set the tone for the entire journey, since an individual typically ends up spending an average of 10 hours per day with their lab-mates. Unlike an academic scenario which is divided primarily into a student-teacher population, a PhD lab environment has a variety of individuals- starting with the immediate mentor/boss, senior PhD students, post docs, research assistants, and lab assistants. Thus, it is essential to remember that while doing a PhD, one is a student (while interacting with senior lab personnel), as well as an employee/manager (while interacting with lab assistants)! Getting acclimatised to these hierarchical differences is an essential component of any PhD journey. Additionally, cultural differences in both USA and Europe, as well as language barriers in some areas in Europe might pose some initial problems while communicating science. A dedicated time and effort towards understanding each other, developing a flexible and global mindset, learning the local languages and quirks can definitely help the students in overcoming these issues.

After these initial barriers are crossed, regardless of the country or the lab, there is an immense potential to form some deep and meaningful friendships that in some cases, can last a lifetime.

Skill Development –

Skill-building during PhD is an area where students can easily reap the benefits regardless of the geographical location of their PhD. Broadly speaking, these skills can be divided into two categories: technical and non-technical.

Technical skills are gained by developing sufficient expertise on various techniques employed by students to solve the scientific problems encountered during the PhD. Examples of these could be – project specific skills (techniques learnt specifically for the project), experiment specific skills (improvement of the existing techniques in order to improve the experiment outcome), lab specific skills (techniques learnt while contributing to projects of lab-mates and/or performing lab responsibilities).

Non – technical skills or soft skills are harder to measure, but can act as a wonderful reward of following through your PhD journey diligently. Examples of these could be: developing an independent thought process while understanding the nuances of research methodology (forming a hypothesis, planning an experiment and trouble-shooting the results); managing one’s time and resources meticulously (the success of any PhD journey hinges largely upon these two factors); an increased self-awareness by holding oneself accountable for the completion of experiments; and an improvement in verbal as well as written communication skills. Lastly, one of the most critical and underrated soft skills that can be acquired during a PhD, is the ability develop a flexible attitude towards unlearning and relearning scientific concepts.

Networking opportunities –

Developing good networking skills is extremely important for PhD students, regardless of where they are situated. Opportunities like conferences, workshops, collaborations, lab meetings, departmental seminars, career events, informal group discussions, informal lunches and coffee get-togethers are some great ways to build a network during the PhD. Efficiency in verbal and written communication is a given, but learning restraint is also important- knowing when to simply listen, is an essential component of networking. Networking opportunities also serve a medium for one’s personal growth. From learning the art of elevator pitches to formal written communication, one has the opportunity to expand their skills and knowledge, so it is extremely beneficial for PhD students to dedicate sufficient time and efforts towards building their networking skills during the journey.

Work-life balance –

Regardless of geographical location, this is an area where all PhD students struggle immensely for a long time during their PhD journey. Nonetheless, here are five points that every prospective PhD student should strive for in order to achieve work-life balance-

Increase productivity by occasional unwinding – unwinding with a hobby, a little cooking session, evening walks or just relaxing in the blanket with a mug of your favourite drink can be extremely energising after a tiring day in the lab. These periodic breaks are also essential to increase productivity at work.

Compartmentalisation – Leaving the tiring day, troubled experiments back in the lab is critical to keep oneself sane during the long and arduous PhD journey.

Establishment of a routine – Making a routine prior to starting the PhD journey helps immensely in planning the day and thus, enjoying the ‘life’ beyond work.

Sustained communication with friends/family from the ‘non-scientific world’ – During the PhD journey, one can feel extremely disconnected with the so-called ‘non-scientific world’ as they are mostly unable to understand the nuances of the scientific work, or the disappointment upon repeated failure of experiments. However, this is also precisely why one should stay connected with their friends/family/loved ones since it is in these connections that students can sometimes find a fresh perspective to their issues and are able to view their life beyond the lab and the experiments.

Travel – Taking occasional vacations can be a great source of refreshment to the mind, and taking vacations with your lab-mates can act as a good source for team bonding. Pursuing a PhD in Europe offers perks in this regard- quick weekend getaways are not only affordable but involve less travel times as well!

As you can see, deciding to pursue a PhD (or not) is never an easy choice and there is no right or wrong way to go about it. There is much to consider before plunging yourself into this long journey, and we hope that this article helped you  at least in some ways, in making an informed decision about pursuing a PhD.